Indyref – What is Scotland?

What is Scotland?

I could kill this off quickly and say ‘well, it’s whatever you suppose it to be’.

But then, I have a short smart arsed blog and that’s not what I do.

Scotland is a country? A nation? A people? A land? A region? A province? A territory? A place?

At the moment, probably all of that applies as under devolution, there are things that Scotland can do on it’s own and things that it can’t. In European terms Scotland is currently a region or defined sub-area of the UK.

In football terms, Scotland is a country and has an well known identity, In the Winter Olympics, Saltires are removed from people’s hands.

In the indyref debate, people born in a Scotland pop up now and again saying ‘I want a vote in the referendum’ – they can’t as they’re not resident.

They would, however, have citizenship in an independent Scotland as proposed in the White Paper.

I have a simplistic view that it’s us that are living and working in Scotland, whether we are born in Scotland or not who deserve to make the decision.

That may be fair to those Ethnic Scots that are out with our borders, it may not. I can understand their point but fear their argument is another stick to be used by the unionist n campaign.

Can a devolved territory have really have ‘borders’. I suppose it’s simple when there’s just the one land border.

In the indyref twitter debate I’ve seen ‘f*** them, let’s rebuild Hadrian’s Wall!!’ – I must admit to finding that funny as the wall is entirely in England, although the addition of bits of Cumbria and Northumbria to Scotland might be nice.

That’s back to our ‘lost territory’ of Cumbria and Northumbria I guess.

Scotland’s border with England was defined by the Treaty of York in 1237. Agreed for nearly 800 years taking aside the English grab of Berwick-Upon-Tweed in 1482.

That lasted through with a bit if movement north of Carlisle to the Act of Union in 1707.

So that’s it until 1999, when the dull sounding Scottish Adjacent Waters Boundary Order took effect.

A statutory instrument apparently to define ‘Scottish Waters’ under devolution and mark where Scots or English or Northern Irish Laws applied at sea. Important for fishing and oil rigs and stuff like that.

The ‘oil rigs and stuff’ bit wasn’t meant to be noticed by many folk, but it saw a movement of the maritime boundary by a substantial way and placed a number of oil and gas installations in English Waters. The map displays it far better than I can describe it.

So define Scotland or being Scottish as you will, but the lines drawn for land and sea in any talks on independence will be very very important.


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